‘Richard’ on Abortion

IF you read this blog, and you do not read The Road To Concord, then the following post is going to be a little out of context for you.  For this, I apologize.  If you would like to catch up, go to TRTC and search for ‘Richard’ and read the posts that come up in the results.

To Steve’s Listeners;

Richard has done it again, and — once more — I cannot sit and remain silent why this… ‘individual’ maligns the righteous while claiming to be the only one holding the moral high ground.  This time, the subject is abortion: specifically, ‘Richard’s’ twisting of Scripture to infer that God is neutral on the subject.

It started this time in a Face Book thread where ‘Richard’ accused me of ‘cherry-picking’ Scriptures to support my positions.  ‘Richard’ replied to a comment I made by saying:

Richard Marx Joe, you have no moral ground to stand on supporting the evil that you do. Just as many who have come before you to hate and oppress, you pick verses from The Bible to justify your hate and evil instead of using the holy word to do good and follow the teachings of Jesus. Also Joe, Terry Redding is lying. I never said that God is all for abortion. In fact I told Terry that no one hates abortion more than I do.

Later, while talking to another of Steve’s listeners, ‘Richard’ said this:

Richard Marx Terry, I quoted Exodus 21. It says that if you cause a pregnant woman to lose her baby it’s only murder if the woman dies. This law doesn’t seem to treat the death of the unborn person as a murder. Only if the mother dies is murder suggested. There is no law in the Bible that forbids a woman to abort her child. I’m NOT saying that means abortion is allowed by God in general at all but you and I aren’t God. He may permit it in some situations or he may not in any situation. You and I and everyone can interpret what we think God wants but there is no clear answers in the Bible. Only interpretation.

And ‘Richard’ accuses me of cherry-picking and twisting Scripture!?  Well, dear reader, let us have a look at what this passage of Scripture really says:

Exodus 21:22-26  New American Standard Bible (NASB)

22 “If men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that [a]she gives birth prematurely, yet there is no injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman’s husband [b]may demand of him, and he shall pay [c]as the judges decide. 23 But if there is any further injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, [d]bruise for bruise.

Exodus 21:22-26  Amplified Bible (AMP)

22 “If men fight with each other and injure a pregnant woman so that she gives birth prematurely [and the baby lives], yet there is no further injury, the one who hurt her must be punished with a fine [paid] to the woman’s husband, as much as the judges decide. 23 But if there is any further injury, then you shall require [as a penalty] life for life, 24 [a]eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

When we take the time to go look up the Lord’s Word, we find that Exodus 21:22-23 does not say what ‘Richard’ claims it says at all.  In fact, it says, if the baby is killed, the person who caused the baby’s death must pay with their life — just as if they had killed an adult.  In other words, Scripture treats even the accidental killing of an unborn child as murder.

Now, for those who know ‘Richard,’ there are two things to take away from this:

1 — Always check everything ‘Richard’ says.  In every case I have done so, I have found that ‘Richard’ has been…  Well, shall we be generous and say, ‘Less than honest?’

2 — When ‘Richard’ claims the Name of Christ, or worse, when he accuses those of us standing on the solid ground of God’s Word of being aligned with Satan, ask yourself this question:

Which one of the people involved is twisting or misusing God’s Word?

If you will check for yourself, I suspect you will find that it is seldom (if ever) the person ‘Richard’ is accusing.

Clearly, ‘Richard’ has intentionally twisted the Lord’s Word (again).  I am not going to allow for the possibility that he did not understand this passage.  I will not allow for it because he cited it, then misrepresented it by changing what the Scripture actually says.  This is an intentional act.  Furthermore, ‘Richard’ has repeatedly refused correction; choosing instead to rely on his own word rather than that of the Lord’s.  This is why I cannot allow that ‘Richard’ is mistaken: because his actions have shown clear intent over the entire time I’ve known him.  Therefore, his actions represent his fruit, and we are commanded to discern according to the fruit of others (mind you: not to judge the heart — but the person’s actions).  In this case, ‘Richard’s’ actions have a clear purpose:

1 — To deceive by twisting Scripture (so as)

2 — To defend abortion

3 — While making it appear that he holds the moral high ground and all those who object to him  are the ones acting against God’s Word.

Believers, we are called to defend the Truth.  We do this by stating what God calls righteous as fact and by speaking out against what God calls unrighteous.  We are also told to do this with an agape love for all.  This means we speak the Truth and denounce what is false boldly and firmly and without moving — even if it means we are martyred.  But we do so without hate, or condemnation in our hearts.  Nor do we seek to deceive or use force to get others to accept the Truth.  We must never trample the free will of other people.  No!  Again, we plant ourselves like a tree beside a stream and we refuse to move.

Jeremiah 17:8  New American Standard Bible (NASB)

“For he will be like a tree planted by the water,
That extends its roots by a stream
And will not fear when the heat comes;
But its leaves will be green,
And it will not be anxious in a year of drought
Nor cease to yield fruit.

The Lord will do the rest.  After all, does His Word not say He will fight for us?  Then why would we ever seek to take the sword from His hand?

Exodus 14:14  New American Standard Bible (NASB)

14 The Lord will fight for you while you keep silent.”

Believers, remember that all those who try to convince you to trust in and rely on government are trying to get you to worship a beast (Daniel is clearly told that beasts represent earthly kingdoms or governments).  And that all who seek to use the government to force you to do their will are living by the sword.  And all those who would twist the Truth or seek to deceive to get their way are liars.  None of this is of the Lord, therefore, believers should not join themselves to any of it.  Again, just stand in the Truth — God’s Truth — and trust in Him and Him alone!

Psalm 1  Amplified Bible (AMP)

Book One

The Righteous and the Wicked Contrasted.

[a]Blessed [fortunate, prosperous, and favored by God] is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked [following their advice and example],
Nor stand in the path of sinners,
Nor sit [down to rest] in the seat of [b]scoffers (ridiculers).

But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
And on His law [His precepts and teachings] he [habitually] meditates day and night.

And he will be like a tree firmly planted [and fed] by streams of water,
Which yields its fruit in its season;
Its leaf does not wither;
And in whatever he does, he prospers [and comes to maturity].

The wicked [those who live in disobedience to God’s law] are not so,
But they are like the chaff [worthless and without substance] which the wind blows away.

Therefore the wicked will not stand [unpunished] in the judgment,
Nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.

For the Lord knows and fully approves the way of the righteous,
But the way of the wicked shall perish.


What does the Bible say about abortion?  CARM

What does the Bible say about abortion?  Got Questions?

Is abortion murder?

Abortion and the Early Church

4 thoughts on “‘Richard’ on Abortion”

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